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Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.26 05:14:24 -
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I plan on moving some high value PI on a semi regular basis... profit margins are such that it would kill my profits to use a hauling service so I plan on doing this myself.
at an estimate if I use a deep space transport and load up the fleet hanger I would be moving about 1.6b worth of merchandise and I'll need to do that like 20+ times per month so I need to do it as efficiently as possible.
so assuming I use an impel how would you fit it? I also am assuming the best thing to do here would be the mwd/cloak warping to avoid people scanning me and ganking me.
now having said that, that really only tells me I need a mwd in mids and a cloak in high. for the rest what would you guys do?
Mids a few ECMs maybe?
as for the lows would you go for extra cargo space, warp stabs or go for agility? I can see the merits in each... cargo space would make my overall trips go down from like 30 to 20 or so (just guessing on actual number of trips but its a lot)
The stabs would make it so I could warp if I did end up getting caught with my pants down.... and the agility would make me warp faster
Currently Im leaning to cargo expanders on both my lows and my rigs since if I do the mwd/cloak right then I should already be safe but I wanted other peoples opinions on the matter.
Thanks :) |

Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2016.12.26 05:18:08 -
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oh also... being I'll be doing this long term I also would consider implanting the transporting character for more agility or armor or whatever else would make this operation have the highest probability of success.
so probably warp speed or agility..... leaning toward agility though so nomads. but again, unsure so advice would be nice. |

Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2016.12.26 06:21:18 -
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Ill be moving a lot.... once i get my alts set up and finish training ill go through 756m3 per hour so 18144 a day so 544k or so a month
But as i said it will be high value... i think i figured the 60k i could fit into the dst was close to 2bill isk
I cant afford the whole month up front but i was thinkin a few days, cash in then add a day then cashh in till i could afford to do the whole month up front.
But anyway you get the idea, so considering the value per m3 a freighter and orca would be inviting a gank wouldnt it |

Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2016.12.26 12:43:41 -
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Lol i know expanders offer no safety my point was that if the mwd and cloak and say agil implants offered enough saftey then i could throw in less safe cargo expanders
I think theres a line there everyone, or at least i am always tempted by that would balance the safe with the unsafe cargo size.
I wont do the xargo expanders since all it would do is make me even jucier... better to take 1 or 2 more trips, ... i cant be the only one tempted at times to increase cargo size though lol
As for the responses though.... thank you, however why is the increases eft better than say increased warp stability or increased agiloty? I have no issues going the way suggested, just am curious as to why, and if an increase in effective hit points is better then should i go slave implants as opposed to nomads?
I assume also acendency would be similar to cargo expanders... something to temp you closer to that line of unsafe additions vs increased surviveability. Which in my case of high value cargo i should just suck it up and resign myself to a lil longer warp time and 1 or 2 more trips.
Thanks again |

Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2016.12.26 22:01:20 -
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An orca would need someone webbing you for fast warps right? Or can you manage a mwd cloak trick with an orca
Id assume not but cant hurt to ask
And thanks again for all the advice everyone, i appreciate it |

Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2016.12.29 06:28:12 -
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Tam Arai wrote:if youre doing in excess of 30b PI a month but using a hauling service to transport it to hisec would use up your profits, you are doing something very wrong
Thats true if I could hire them to move it all as 1 package but from what Ive seen with red frog for instance they cap each load at about 1 billion collateral
so if I could do 1 package of 30b or even 2 of 15 or so Id be fine.... but 30 seperate packages and 30 separate fees per jump... not so much. |
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